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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 17, 2010 21:55:55 GMT -5
okay.
but egbman? have you actually played in a server with this guy? i seen him get owned by noobs, that guy isn't even top 20
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 22:02:44 GMT -5
I've gotten owned by newbs. It happens to the best of us.
And he did well in my 1v1 with him.
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Post by jenaez on Mar 17, 2010 22:03:34 GMT -5
okay. but egbman? have you actually played in a server with this guy? i seen him get owned by noobs, that guy isn't even top 20 He never adapted to play the full game, he never changes his playstyle and he keeped playing like if he was playing vs players who dont evenn know what is jump cancel, that happen to me my 1st 2 weeks, but now, well everyone know how i play now . Im not saying he's bad, he is really good he have alot of tricks and his lighting are really fast and accurated, but he still think he can beat 8 ppl alone like in the demo
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 17, 2010 22:07:34 GMT -5
idk, i've played with him multiple times and never seen anything special
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Post by chewie02 on Mar 17, 2010 22:39:10 GMT -5
crusader and bm, you both have marenko on your lists, but the only two 1v1's i've played were against crushedbydesire(marenko) and grad. Marenko 1v1 was close, but grad destroyed me like 10-2. I've played with both in clan matches too, and they were probably pretty even in 8v8. So grad's 1v1 skills give him the edge. Also egbman should not be on your list bm, he's good, but top 10 are you serious? Every time i've played him i've had no trouble owning him.
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Post by Crusader_878 on Mar 17, 2010 22:45:51 GMT -5
crusader and bm, you both have marenko on your lists, but the only two 1v1's i've played were against crushedbydesire(marenko) and grad. Marenko 1v1 was close, but grad destroyed me like 10-2. I've played with both in clan matches too, and they were probably pretty even in 8v8. So grad's 1v1 skills give him the edge. Also egbman should not be on your list bm, he's good, but top 10 are you serious? Every time i've played him i've had no trouble owning him. marenko has his days where he is flat out dominant. However, I do agree that EGBMAN2009 shouldn't be on BM's list. Maybe BM saw something in him that I haven't seen in him.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 23:05:36 GMT -5
maybe I played with him on a good day, or you caught him on a bad day. But from what I saw he was good.
Every time I've played grad he's been subpar.
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Post by Strider on Mar 17, 2010 23:17:02 GMT -5
Strider's a top 20 mage but not top 10. Maybe, but I did beat EGBMAN (who's in your top 10) in a 1v1. He challenged me after playing in a mixed server together. He said something like: 'BM and I are the best mages, your archer is elite but I'll dominate your mage.' The match started out even, we exchanged for a bit (he has an awkward style that I needed to figure out). Then I went on a run and killed him four straight times. It was 9-5 then he quit. I admit that as the game progressed (and my mage fell by the wayside) - I had more fun playing warrior, archer, and scout. When I did play mage it was either because my team needed a boost or some support (ie - a CTR match).
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 23:46:48 GMT -5
I mentioned him as someone who was better than grad.
That's not necessarily my top 10.
Regardless, you're still not a top 10 mage anymore.
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Post by jenaez on Mar 17, 2010 23:53:14 GMT -5
I think all the newest threads on proboards always end with a flame war. Every1 should stop saying who is better than who, just wait for the awards and see who is in the top 10 (top 5 + honorable mention), bcuz everyone have diferents opinion of who is better, bcuz everyone experimented diferent experience with diferent pp ( example of this is the top 10 mages list of bm and crusader, some names are the same but others not), but the awards show a combination of everyone opinion and that will give an accurate list of the top mages. BTW i know some ppl say that the awards are "fake" and it is only a popularity contest, i think thats not true bcuz im sure ppl vote for the ppl who deserve it, i know i did it, if you dont believe me ask the admin if i put in the top position ppl i dont like.
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Post by Strider on Mar 18, 2010 0:02:02 GMT -5
I think all the newest threads on proboards always end with a flame war. Every1 should stop saying who is better than who, just wait for the awards and see who is in the top 10 (top 5 + honorable mention), bcuz everyone have diferents opinion of who is better, bcuz everyone experimented diferent experience with diferent pp ( example of this is the top 10 mages list of bm and crusader, some names are the same but others not), but the awards show a combination of everyone opinion and that will give an accurate list of the top mages. BTW i know some ppl say that the awards are "fake" and it is only a popularity, i think thats not true bcuz im sure ppl vote for the ppl who deserve it, i know i did it, if you dont believe me ask the admin if i put in the top position ppl i dont like. Spot on. It's all opinion. Though the awards aren't so much indicative of who's the best. They're just the opinions of those that voted.
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Post by jenaez on Mar 18, 2010 0:08:22 GMT -5
I think all the newest threads on proboards always end with a flame war. Every1 should stop saying who is better than who, just wait for the awards and see who is in the top 10 (top 5 + honorable mention), bcuz everyone have diferents opinion of who is better, bcuz everyone experimented diferent experience with diferent pp ( example of this is the top 10 mages list of bm and crusader, some names are the same but others not), but the awards show a combination of everyone opinion and that will give an accurate list of the top mages. BTW i know some ppl say that the awards are "fake" and it is only a popularity, i think thats not true bcuz im sure ppl vote for the ppl who deserve it, i know i did it, if you dont believe me ask the admin if i put in the top position ppl i dont like. Spot on. It's all opinion. Though the awards aren't so much indicative of who's the best. They're just the opinions of those that voted. Yes but the awards is a combination of the everyone diferent opinion, so the result should be more accurate than the opinion of only one person
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Post by Strider on Mar 18, 2010 0:14:40 GMT -5
You're right about that - absolutely.
I just meant to say that there's no ultimate list of rankings. Just the opinions of those (on this forum) that have decided to vote.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 18, 2010 3:36:44 GMT -5
nah ive always said cash was the best mage (xcept for near the summer wen i used to say bauer was the best), u can ask anyone.... i just feel cash had a bigger impact in our clan battles then u BM, no offense. Help me understand this. Are you saying that the TCF/CT players are better than the TM7 players, despite the fact that TCF/CT lost every single time the two faced off? Tell me how that makes any sense. The way I see it, if 5 or more TCF/CT players were better than 5 or more TM7 players then TCF/CT should have won the clan battles, which they never did. And I've heard various members of your team say that you have players that are better than me (cash), badger (pookz), rizen (grad), jenaez (darth, gow), amaced (apparently everyone), and nexsus (gow). CT has 6 better players? That's just illogical. If any of that was true you wouldn't have lost. If 4 TCF/CT players were better than 4 TM7 players the matches would have been very even. None of them were (yeah, including the last one, you guys only ever won 1 game in one mode at best in a match). The only remaining possibility is that the majority of TM7 players (5 or more) were better than the majority of TCF/CT players. Yet that would seem to contradict your evaluations of the individual talent on the two teams. Or are you just saying that only cash had a bigger impact than me? I certainly hope this is the case, because if not then you seriously have to reconsider the criteria you base people's skill on. Not to mention that TM7 almost always had different people playing because we lost members and were often short on players and had to use subs. The only constants across ALL of our matches were ME, Joppi, rizen, and bauer. It is pretty clear that that core of players plus any random assortment of other players we happened to sub was better than your entire team. You have to attribute TM7's success to those players in particular because they were there every match. And considering that we dominated you every time, I would definitely say I had a MUCH bigger impact than cash ever did. Oh, and before you give me some bullshit about how we didn't dominate you, take a look at the stats: CTR total games: 7-1 (TM7 winning) Conquest total: 4-0 (TM7) TDM total: 3-1 (TM7) _______ Overall games: 14-2 (TM7) - .875 winning percentageCTR mode victories: 3-0 (TM7) Conquest mode victories: 2-0 (TM7) TDM mode victories: 1-0 (TM7) _______ Overall modes: 6-0 TM7 - 1.000 winning percentage
Total matches: 3-0 (TM7) - 1.000 winning percentageIf that's not domination I don't know what is. We beat you nearly 90% of the games we played, and 100% of the modes and matches. Show me where straightcash's impact was. Was it in the .125 percentage of games you guys won? Or maybe it was in the 0% of modes and matches you won. Just because rizen and joppi and others compliment you by saying you were the best competition we had doesn't mean you're anywhere close to us. It just means you're better than all the other clans we faced. So don't get too full of yourselves. You may be the second best clan, but the margin between us is immense. And remember, k/d ratio doesn't mean anything. It's the Ws that show who is better. If your members were actually better than ours then the outcome of the matches would have been different.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 18, 2010 4:48:18 GMT -5
whew. That was exhausting. I feel like I just went beast mode on y'all. Took a bunch outta me though.
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