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Post by jonathan1515 on Jul 19, 2009 11:41:35 GMT -5
Do you think it's fair for scouts to be able to roll in and easily score a point with taking minimal damage (sure you may die sometimes but it's much easier to roll then do anything else)?
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Jul 19, 2009 12:56:50 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think the scout is the worst class in terms of the tools he is given for killing, and he has every right to use one of the few perks at his disposal.
It would be unfair to demand that they didn't.
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Post by hanzrimer on Jul 19, 2009 13:26:00 GMT -5
It sometimes annoys me but overall I think it's fine.
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Post by Joppi on Jul 19, 2009 13:32:11 GMT -5
It's not like scouts are useful for anything else.
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Post by yash3ahuja on Jul 19, 2009 14:28:00 GMT -5
^^ Joppi they are good for killing heroes and getting the ring carrier effeciently and easily... If your good. They also have some really good melee attacks and the energy O can be good when ur knocking them into a crowd.
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Post by BURNZILLA47 on Jul 19, 2009 15:49:12 GMT -5
All I know is that when I do it I win and when I don't I die.  It may be a better idea to mix it up a bit for those (like me) ;)who have become adept at countering it. Maybe do a few rolls, then do some zig-zag running and jumping, then repeat with a different pattern. Whenever possible, as in the Shire, it's a good idea to stay close to the wall while rolling to help limit the angles attacks can come from. Scouts may seem worthless to those who don't play them as much but if you ask Hei fuk yu, or jbrube they will tell you and show you just how effective a scout can be. Don't even get me started again on Grima. The back stab is the scouts great equalizer, and the roll is his second great perk. |
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Post by matgordo on Jul 20, 2009 10:17:44 GMT -5
A good mage (ground pound), a good warrior (fire dash, or whirlwind, or well timed combo) will stop the roll every time. These two working as teamates will always win the battle. Ive even seen a scout put a backstab on a roller. Remember, as the scout is BETWEEN rolls he is vulnerable. Time all of your attacks at this point to stop it. Even the best roller will give you a window of opurtunity to be stopped. The roll is over rated as being a sure thing. While I admit it is tricky to stop, especially close to the goal, it is one of the nuances of the game you must learn to control. It only makes you a better player to try and stop it . Keep rolling scouts, try it against the all-stars.
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Post by EntourageMuscle on Jul 20, 2009 17:31:43 GMT -5
Rolling is fair. It being less effective I believe as people become more experienced anyways. People now know what to do to stop the rolling scout and I'd say less then half the time they don't make it in anymore.
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Post by gold54789 on Jul 25, 2009 9:57:52 GMT -5
It doesn't annoys me because I can backstab them 70% of the time lol.
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Post by czarmz on Aug 1, 2009 15:41:06 GMT -5
i roll to score, so i find it acceptable. but if they score, i always wonder why we had some moron who couldnt stop them, even if its me.
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Post by jberube0311 on Aug 1, 2009 20:20:08 GMT -5
the only class that has trouble to stop a rolling scout is an archer but the poison might affected the scout if rolling in it . like it was mentioned before i can backstab a rolling scout most times mages fire can reduce the hp of the scout but the ground pound will only stop the scout rolls for a short time if you recover quickly from the fall
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Post by eternalagony on Sept 5, 2009 20:11:35 GMT -5
what else is a scout gonna do while having the ring? Bomb everyone to death? Cloak is useless with the giant fire ring on your back.
give the poor scout some slack.
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Post by BURNZILLA47 on Sept 5, 2009 20:19:10 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better myself Agony ;D
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Post by matgordo on Sept 6, 2009 14:39:48 GMT -5
Since my last post in this thread I have determined the easiest most foolproof way to stop the roll is with the warriors whirlwind sword. I can't remember the last time it didn't work. It is impossible to roll through it because it lasts longer than the roll. If you have a full energy bar you can finish with the fire heavy attack and a kick to the balls while on the ground. It's actually kind if fun to see a scout rolling because it is easy to stop. Just make sure you have fire energy.
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Post by jberube0311 on Sept 7, 2009 21:34:29 GMT -5
cloak helps with the lightning cause they cant auto fire you when u are truly invisible (cause it takes 3 to 5 sec to invis fully)
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It may be a better idea to mix it up a bit for those (like me) ;)who have become adept at countering it. Maybe do a few rolls, then do some zig-zag running and jumping, then repeat with a different pattern. Whenever possible, as in the Shire, it's a good idea to stay close to the wall while rolling to help limit the angles attacks can come from. Scouts may seem worthless to those who don't play them as much but if you ask Hei fuk yu, or jbrube they will tell you and show you just how effective a scout can be. Don't even get me started again on Grima. The back stab is the scouts great equalizer, and the roll is his second great perk.
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