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Post by optimusmime on Apr 6, 2010 15:59:51 GMT -5
lol, well said Oneshot. I think
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Post by giaquinto718 on Apr 6, 2010 16:21:39 GMT -5
Mime is hands down the smartest in this 1 vs 1's i know he ll give any mage on any system a run for his money, same with lstar and swami, swami said there was lag in that game, he wouldnt need to lie, im not taking sides i just have a beleif that our mages can 1 vs 1
Mime being at the top hands down, out of all 3 of them the closest i got to beating one was L Star when i was under Ripper, i played dumb at first with mage i never play it, but after fighting so many many name mages i saw that it takes more brain than talent, i was suppsobly always a decent mage though i never played it so idk where ppl saw it
but i 1 vs 1ed swami and lstar in uk henrys server, against swami h ad no lag i got destroyed 10 - 3
L Star beat me 10 - 6 it shouldve been 10 - 8 because there were two what couldve been, life ending stomps that didnt connects when i stomped right in front of him they didnt knock him down nor do damage, i guess because its a uk server, i even msged l star that day as that game was going and he said he saw, he pointed out to me it was the server itself
but just because i got close doesnt mean i think different of lstar
i think all 3 mages are good 1 vs 1 they all have brains and different playing styles in 8 vs 8s, the most "ballziestttt" is L Star, its a style no1s used to that rapes
mime is the team man, yet again still a threat he wont bother u till u come near him back in the day there was a time were mime killed me, hankey, l star, blazing eagle eye, and ragtime jazz all at once at rivendell by the base near the waterall me and hankey were wrriors i had a decent amount of health hankey didnt last long, jazz and lstar were mages mime killed them, and eagle was a scout all of us died
mime is a badass mage
swami is a mix of both he likes to keep his team alive but he ll strive for his kills, and he has the habit of insead of healing through his combos he does something to were he can jump out with ease
honestly though as far as the what mages are better than who it remains to be seen
honestly i see that when ace , and oneshot went over there they said are players were so much better than u guys
oneshot said he didnt play with alot of u but he said broncofan stood out
viking idk when ive ever played with him because when nomada joined my party it was gow
but honestly the person who can give us the best and most honest opinion is Ander or MAyehm because theyve been back and forht longer between both
though it still isnt fair cus there from 360
but so far it seems like who ever crossed over said there home system was better : /
and lmao ewww oneshot!!!!! i wasnt trying to top anyone ya bastidddddddd haha get online fool!
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Apr 6, 2010 16:23:08 GMT -5
all the skills exhibited in a mage 1v1 are necessary for success as a mage in 8v8 as well, unlike most other 1v1s.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Apr 6, 2010 16:36:37 GMT -5
But all the actual results show that ps3 > 360.
Onde, vho, acenturai have all been beaten by ps3 players and were unable to beat the ps3's best. God of war beat gia's warrior, and lost to oneshot's scout, and he's not even the best warrior or scout on ps3.
God of war and viking are both much better than onde, and they spent a good amount of time on both systems and saw a lot of both, especially considering they started playing on xbox in the last month of the game when a lot of people played the shit out of the game, so they can give the "best and most honest opinion" from anyone on the two systems IMO.
The only reason ace and oneshot would say 360 players are "so much better" than ps3 players is because they probably played with newbs. The ps3 community is so much bigger than the 360 community, so of course we have servers that have a lot of newbs in them, and they must have been in those servers.
The sheer fact that oneshot names broncofan as someone who stood out to him speaks to the quality of the people who he was playing with. Broncofan is pretty good, don't get me wrong, but he's not top 10 in any ps3 category. He hasn't even seen our best players.
Viking and gow have actually played with the top 360 players, like gia and swami.
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Post by viking56 on Apr 6, 2010 16:47:59 GMT -5
i never said ps3 or 360 guys are better, the difference in the lag makes it possible for certain mages to do alot better on ps3, u die faster on xbox i have no doubt your top mages could be near top or the opposite also true if the top went ps3 went over there, i played full maps gow played 1v1's the xbox is in my room so i usually was watching, skills from the game transfer over just have to get use to the controller or lag issues. maybe ps3 does have an edge on mages i dont know but we have more players, u guys have alot of good scouts and warriors, glitches and stuff change my perception of your archers, on a straightup battle all archers i dont who would win. regardless class battles ps3 vs 360 would have been a blast
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Post by viking56 on Apr 6, 2010 17:00:19 GMT -5
it was alot of fun playing with new people the last month, wish we would have got lotr for xbox sooner, could have made a better assessment of talent overall, my opinion is my own and it is available to everyones scrutiny as it should be, gow was top 5 in mvp both times so he isn't bad but i think if he played longer he could've been in their top 5 category also
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Post by straightcash5 on Apr 6, 2010 17:02:15 GMT -5
all the skills exhibited in a mage 1v1 are necessary for success as a mage in 8v8 as well, unlike most other 1v1s.
yep
i never once played with mayhem on ps3, onde i did along time ago, but she thinks it takes 'SKILL' to do a shotgun, so i'd never take her opinion on skill over vikings and gows. though i think she has a good understanding of what a good warrior is.
i'll be honest, gow isn't the best judge of talent, i've seen him overrate and underrate many players. but viking is a honest guy and has a good understanding of who isn't good and is. plus viking never said we have better players. he said your mages weren't impressive (excluding mime), your archers were as good as ours, our warriors were better and that you have better scouts. he also said the WC which is like tm7 (talent wise) of xbox, that you guys are on the same level as CT which is not better then tm7.
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Apr 6, 2010 19:08:33 GMT -5
Aight, I do think that it is a lot more difficult to be a team player. The people that impress me most are the people that hand out heals like candy, or the people who will sacrifice their life and points to ensure that his/her team wins the match. That's why I hold people like Mime and Jan in such high esteem. Nice job reminding everyone about that, One Shot 1-1 don't prove much. They are more of a showcase of your style. Whoever wins probably has a more unique and unpredictable style, but not necessarily more skill. Don't think I'm rude for this, and I hope you have the time for it, (If not, it's cool. I don't want to make you put too much work into nothing, really), but here's my assignment to GoW and/or Viking56: Make a list of a few Xbox mages, a few warriors, a few archers, and a few scouts that impressed you. Similarly, make a list of a few warriors, a few archers, a few mages, and a few scouts that impress you on PS3 and compare the two. I just want you to actually think about this. Even if you say PS3 is better, I wouldn't mind. I'm just curious of your opinion, being one of the only crossover players. I also encourage SOR Mayhem, Onde Aander, Acentauri, OneShot, IIxRIPPERxII to do the same. Remember, if you don't want to, you don't have to. I don't want to be your teacher, assigning homework or anything
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Post by straightcash5 on Apr 6, 2010 19:41:52 GMT -5
lol blitz.
not a bad idea
1v1 in my eyes proves who has more skill as far as mages go, warriors it does to an extent, but mainly just comes down to style matchup.
but on ps3 at least, for the most part our best mages are all good in 1v1 and 8v8, take for example our top 3 to 4, we are all great in 8v8 and 1v1 situations, we are the best all around mages on ps3, 8v8 or 1v1, if you truly are a great mage your good in both, the only mage that i believe is great but not good in 1v1 is bauer.
my point is if your a great 1v1 mage, your a great 8v8 mage. you can be a good mage in 8v8, especially if you have good team mates and stay in groups, or in the case of bauer are better at fighting multiple people better then you can one person, but when your in a 1v1 situation it shows nothing but how much talent you have with mage. any mage can get kills in 8v8, people aren't payin attention or are fighting others and you can get easy kills no matter how good you are.
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Post by straightcash5 on Apr 6, 2010 19:44:48 GMT -5
in 1v1 there is no distractions, you have no advantages over your opponent, it's a level playing field. whoever has more skill and fights smarter will win. like i said if your a good 1v1 mage it's not hard to be good in 8v8.
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Post by viking56 on Apr 6, 2010 20:59:01 GMT -5
actaully a good 1v1 to see would be gow vs bauer
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Post by viking56 on Apr 6, 2010 21:02:26 GMT -5
i will try to list a few mage swami, giabeast, uk henry archer da one and only, experiment, buknasty warrior giabeast,es tiberon, menoover scout one shot
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Post by giaquinto718 on Apr 7, 2010 1:23:27 GMT -5
lol cash,
yeah viking means Mordors not white council WC isnt a clan , when we were though we were the greatest ever because are clan was the combnation of fellowship and mordors, but when viking came we were mordors, both viking and gow joined our clan, and they were gona play in the final battle along with me,oneshot,mime,lstar,himra,orson,and ITSAWR4P
and we even had swami on as well , he singed on late though
but as far as your opinion BM u cant say that because the players u name arent the best on 360, ace isnt is prob the best of the bunch when it comes to playing classes
who did ace face 1 on 1
and as far as i know so what if gow beat me on wrrior after i beat him? both matches dnt matter to me, im not the same wrrior i was, but i will admit his style is intersting
i see gow is the first honarable mention on ps3 mages, and i beat him 10-4, i dont play mage, that shouldnt happen
so i wonder how close i wouldve gotten to the higher mages
as far as archer it would be interesting to see guys like me, 1andonly, oneshot, sphinkter, orson take on youre best i feel like we do have better archers if anything the ppl in this archer group DONT glitch
as far as scouts if viking says we have better scouts i didnt think hed say that
who is your list of top 5 scouts viking?
and viking was unlucky to see mime, smartest mage ever to play 360 conquest, hed give any mage a run for his money, i think lstar is the only one to beat him
as far as oneshot u could just put his name 5 times for top scout, he is an army of one on scout, his scouts amazing
wrriors im convinced thats interesting i wana see me vs broly in our primes, consistent playing of wrrior, back when it was all i played
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Post by straightcash5 on Apr 7, 2010 3:37:33 GMT -5
well oneshot did play on ps3 as a archer and didn't outplay a archer that was around our 12th best (bronco) so there's that one. lol
as for gow he actually shouldn't be 6th, he should prolly be around 10 to 20 range. you also beat him on your system, though didn't he play uk henry who is in your top 5 mages and only lost by 1? or was it the other way around? i just know the score was 10-9.
and like i said, our top mages are much further ahead then the rest of them, myself i've only been beatin by bm, same for him, no other mage has ever even came within 5 kills of my score in a 1v1. i didn't post my 1v1's, but if you don't believe me i can post them. look at bm's 1v1's, he only has like one match that was not against me that was close, the rest he dominated in. outside of me and bm, all of our other mages are on a much lower level in 1v1 (except rizzen who didn't play much or do 1v1's).
who all have swami and lstar lost too?
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Post by giaquinto718 on Apr 7, 2010 7:33:28 GMT -5
mime has only been beat by lstar
lstar has been only been beat by mime , until recently swami beat him
but lstar never really played mage or conquest when it came to an end beleive it or not he never played mage consstenly like youre avergae top 3 mage, yet he was still top 3,, lstar is a dirty mage and i always say just how dirty would he be if he played non stop mage
and yea i beat gow on my system , but im a garbage mage that shouldnt matter, every1 who plays mage should beat me, and gow played that alot on our system
and as far as my boy shot.... i thought u guys said u never saw him play, if so i never said bronco out played his archer, oneshot said he didnt see anyone really impressive but bronco, he never 1 on 1ed bronco, nor i think bronco out played him, even if he did, oneshot isnt the phenom monster of an archer that he used to be back in the day he was the greatest thing i EVER witnessed, that arher wouldnt be touched by anyone
as far as henry, henrys is pretty nasty, he thinks i beat him mage vs mage when it was only a pound for pound , 1st to 5, thats not a one on one so i didnt beat him,but henrys good, but lstar mime and swami are on there on level
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