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Post by [ROJOES]ronjons on May 6, 2011 7:20:40 GMT -5
ok idk how im ordering him about, but HE certainly said we have 6,000 years, and he cant lie. he planned it out and chose the time for everything, and now hes sticking to it. and now your the one voicing god. isnt that right? of course i've his mobile no. G-Man says it took him however long it took to make everything. He wont be told.
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Post by Angelus on May 6, 2011 7:44:08 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Mithrand!r on May 6, 2011 7:56:49 GMT -5
Well i think base of democracy is the respect for each one perspective of things and not some dumb comments if some1 disagrees with us. Tho Taco believes ''we have'' 6000 years, what is, by far, different from the common sense, he defends his point with razoable argumments and its just his opinion, we have to respect him for that - showing our own point tho - and not criticize. Criticize his ideas, not his person - with elementary school comment for example. Since the 11 September attack of the twin towers that i always defended it was not a terrorist attack but manipulation of own government, etc...etc... - one cause that contributes to piss me off with all this ''fake hero show off ''with supposed death of Osama - and i was called idiot or crazy by many dumb asses, who the fuck r them to judge me? Judge my toughts at it best. We never know what news the Future may reveal. Whatever, mutual respect on an argue ftw
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Post by Lumy ' -=TLF=- on May 6, 2011 9:01:15 GMT -5
The jewish one should be rather up to 10.000, Morgoth .
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Post by morgoth on May 6, 2011 9:29:43 GMT -5
nah some weeks ago i got exam about jews xD and there was question about their actual year ^^ so it was 5772
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Post by Lumy ' -=TLF=- on May 6, 2011 10:00:39 GMT -5
Kk then
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Post by -=TLF=-Gothmog on May 6, 2011 11:00:08 GMT -5
I respect if he wants to believe that, he is free to that's obvious, but it's like you still believe earth is flat... you are free to but it's not true. As I said I dont say to him to dont believe bible, but also priests say that the ancient testament needs to be interpretated and not believed word by word.
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Post by Taco on May 6, 2011 11:18:44 GMT -5
Well i think base of democracy is the respect for each one perspective of things and not some dumb comments if some1 disagrees with us. Tho Taco believes ''we have'' 6000 years, what is, by far, different from the common sense, he defends his point with razoable argumments and its just his opinion, we have to respect him for that - showing our own point tho - and not criticize. Criticize his ideas, not his person - with elementary school comment for example. or calling me a she lol. i'm a dude but the question of our genders in this topic is completely irrelevant anyway,as is my grade level(if you MUST know, i'm in kindergarten ;D XD) haha '72 the best number ! though i dont believe thats accurate haha dinosaurs were created on day six of creation along with man. previous to the fall, they were of course vegetarian as were all other animals. my explanation for their extinction: at the time of the flood, many of the sea creatures died, but some survived. in addition, all of the land creatures outside the ark died, but the representatives of all the kinds that survived on the ark lived in the new world after the flood. those land animals (including dinosaurs) found the new world to be much different than the one before the flood. due to (1) competition for food that was no longer in abundance, (2) other catastrophes, (3) man killing for food (and perhaps for fun), and (4) the destruction of habitats, etc., many species of animals eventually died out. merlin, has common sense gone from ''obvious knowledge'' to what is most commonly found in your public library? i didn't say we have exactly 6,000 years to live xDD i said the earth is approximately 6,000 years old. and it is. but i'm telling you, it'd be easier if you watched that presentation i linked then for me to explain everything xD.
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Post by Taco on May 6, 2011 11:26:05 GMT -5
I respect if he wants to believe that, he is free to that's obvious, but it's like you still believe heart is flat... you are free to but it's not true. As I said I dont say to him to dont believe bible, but also priests say that the ancient testament needs to be interpretated and not believed word by word. by heart you mean earth? xD goth according to the bible, the earth is a sphere. and that was known long before the moon landings XD. and i don't see how mere men could create the masterpiece that is the bible. it is not possible. there are no men intelligent enough xD nor ever were. the bible is from god.
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Post by -=TLF=-Gothmog on May 6, 2011 11:32:28 GMT -5
Yeah I meant earth and I corrected it xD No, but I am not referring to the bible with the flat thing, it was a general example, you can imagine the medieval age for that for example xD I just meant that as for the earth, there are scientific proofs that there were, for example, life on earth millions of ages ago so earth cant be 6.000 years old, but you cans still belive it if it's important for yourself. You must read on the bible not the years themselves. Now I explain you what I think:
I believe in God, and I believe God inspired the bible to human kind. BUT God knew aswell that humans of that age couldnt understand a lot of things, for that what you read in the bible must be interpretated. In that situation, at that age of history, that was a huge huge amount of years, say millions of years could be too much for that people to imagine. So bible didnt want to set a real date but set the fact that is a huge huge huge amount of years. That's how I look at it ^^
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Post by killaserpant on May 6, 2011 12:24:22 GMT -5
Ok.Ok.Thats enough.We already said that the big bang machine does not disprove god.I believe in god and thats the only thing that matters.You guys have used up almost 2 pages of my thread talking about god. and this 6000 year thing.Please create a thread to carry on your debate so i can get back to my did you knows.I have alot more to share with you guys.So lets end this debate about god now please.(dam i hate i posted somthing about the big bang).killa out.
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Post by -=TLF=-Gothmog on May 6, 2011 12:48:35 GMT -5
Honestly man, you can't open such a thread and think people will not discuss about something -.- If we don't discuss, a thread like this one in a forum is useless, I can google something like "things you dont know" or loads of similar stuffs and find bare lists of things everywhere.
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Post by Taco on May 6, 2011 13:07:59 GMT -5
the bible means what it says and exactly that. though of course there are certain metaphors and parables but for the most part it should be taken literally. there are no idle words in the bible. goth how can you know what 'the bible wants' xD? theres not a hint of evidence in the bible that the universe is millions of years old. but loads of evidence that its approximately 6,000 years old. killa i agree with goth. if i wanted to learn all this i would just google ''misinformation'' . the threads are so that we can debate xD. how can you believe in god but deny the bible?
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Post by -=TLF=-Gothmog on May 6, 2011 13:20:30 GMT -5
I believe in God but I dont believe that what is wrote in the bible must be taken as final and sure truth, anyways it's not only me believing that Taco, a big part of the Church itself says the same that I did before. And I think the same about Gospel. Remember that these books are written by men and passed through loads of years and years in which probably someone changed or modified something. What you have to take from these books it's the way to live, to stay with others, to respect others etc., I dont think these particulars like earth age have or must have importance, these are things mankind can change or add or invent after etc. etc.
Anyways if you wanna still discuss about that open a new thread and i'll look at it to continue, so Killa with not argue to us once more XD
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Post by |BLOD|Durin on May 6, 2011 13:21:47 GMT -5
Goth just hit the point! After all you can say something usefull! xD
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