The Magnificent Seven challenges HELLFIRE

[BulgarianMenace]

This saturday. Preferably in the afternoon/early evening (eastern time). When is good for you guys?




Here's our proposed rule-set. We'll start with this and then take your input to create the official rules.

*Please note that it is the responsibility of each clan to make sure that all their participating players know the rules. There will be no excuses for rule infractions even if the player didn't know*

Game Rules

-No heroes in any mode. If the hero enters the match and influences the match in any way, then the overall results of the match are invalidated (unless the offending team loses). Further infractions result in immediate round (not war) loss.

-We'll play best 2/3 for each mode (except HTDM), and whoever wins 2 of the modes is the winner. If one team wins two modes in a row, the third is not played. The first mode will be chosen by popular vote in the chat, and further modes will be chosen by the team who lost the last mode.

-The Oliphaunt is explicitly banned and cannot be moved from its original position. Likewise, the ents on pellenor tdm are also banned.

-All out-of-maps and glitch-walls are banned. First offense loses the match.

-The team that lost the last match chooses the side they play on in the next match. First teams will be negotiated in the chat.

-If one of your members disconnects in the middle of the battle, the battle goes on as usual, but no additional matches will be played until your team has a full 8 members (unless the down-team agrees to play on).

Stage Rules

-The first stage in each mode will be the first legal stage in the EA server rotation.

Further stages will be chosen by counterpick, which means that the losing team chooses another legal stage that will be played next. Stages between will be "skipped" by the losing team winning without any resistance (obviously, this win does not count).

(This lends a nice strategic element to the match)


Banned Stage List

Minas Tirith- Conquest
Pellenor Fields- Conquest
Helm's Deep- Conquest
Mines of Moria- TDM
Isengard- TDM
Shire- CTR
Pellenor Fields- CTR


Chat Rules

-Do not enter any server until it is announced in the chat.

-One main chat will hold the 16 players participating in the current game. It is THE CLAN LEADER'S responsibility to ensure that his entire clan is in the chat. Any infractions caused by a member not in the chat will still count against you.

-You may have a chat open for your own clan's use

-When in the server, DO NOT join a team until instructed to in the chat. This allows for disputes to be settled and substitutes to be put in. If you join the game, then the Warm-Up starts, and the game clock will start winding down.

-If the match has started due to people entering the server and no one in the chat is telling everyone to stop playing, then the match will begin as soon as the warm-up is over. This happens whether or not your whole team is ready. However, if your team does start when people in the chat are telling you to stop, the match result is invalidated. Continued breaking of this rule will lead to disqualification of the team and loss of that "mode" (not the whole war).

[hellfireslayer]

We accept the challenge. I agree wit most of the rules but i think we should discuss about the max number of mages in the battle and also i think the counterpick thing r gonna make the battle 2 long specially in TDM but we need 2 discuss bfore altering any rule

[BulgarianMenace]

In my experience it doesn't take too long when everyone is on the same page and cooperating. But if it turns out to be a problem we'll just play the next legal stage in the server rotation.

[BulgarianMenace]

as for a mage cap, I am generally against setting limits. It has long been my belief that a balanced team of multiple classes can beat any team of one class, and that it's actually a bad idea strategically to go too heavy on any single class. That said, my team will never be using all mages anyway, but I don't want to set any limits. If you guys want to go all mages we feel like we can deal with that and still win.

more importantly, does this saturday work for your clan and if so what time?

[rizen33]

Jan 12, 2010 21:44:30 GMT -5 BulgarianMenace said:

In my experience it doesn't take too long when everyone is on the same page and cooperating. But if it turns out to be a problem we'll just play the next legal stage in the server rotation.

So we can still to a degree incorporate the strategic element of counter-picking, perhaps the losing team can pick their side for the next legal stage?

[BulgarianMenace]

of course. I still think we should try counterpicking, it is fun and easy if done right.

[hellfireslayer]

Ok we accept all ur rules, i played against TM7 before n i know u dont spam mages i was speaking 4 the rest of my clan not 4 me, n the counter-pick we can try it, if works in the begging of the battle we can keep doing the counter_pick. We r available 4 the the next week saturday or sunday, this works 4 u?.... i say later the time bcuz like the half of my elite team r from europe n i have 2 c which is best time 4 all

[BulgarianMenace]

that's fine.

Just to clarify, when you say "the next week saturday or sunday," so you mean January 16-17, or January 23-24.

This is very important since if you meant Jan 23-24 then we can challenge another clan for this weekend.

[hellfireslayer]

I was talking about Jan 23-24 bcuz we was thinking we maybe fight vs TCF this sat(jan 16) but i read they cant, im gonna check wit my team n see if we r ready 2 fight this sat ( ithink we are).... I'll check wit them n i let u know the answer the sooner i can...PD: My original language is spanish not english sorry for some mistake on my post ill try 2 write better the next time

[BulgarianMenace]

don't worry about it. I appreciate the effort.

[hellfireslayer]

Sorry we cant fight this weekend... The saturday jan 23 im 100% we r available

[BulgarianMenace]

ok.

What time?

[hellfireunivers]

We have to really discuss about the time with our clan players, as you see our clan empire is spread world wide , so we face problems with timings with our players , most of our clan players are from Europe .anyway i will soon let you know about the time after we discuss with our HELLFIRE clan.

[straightcash5]

i was looking at your banned stages, and i see no reason why pellinor fields ctr is banned, it's a completely even map. also i think rivendale ctr should be banned, it's much easier for evil to capture the ring then good, there is trees by the good base that provide good cover for the ring bearer, and evil can go around the building, which is a easy capture if your team is smart. it's much harder for good to cap the ring, the evil base is more open and much harder to try to sneak up too, i've played there plenty of times and in my experience evil will almost always win unless the teams are unbalanced

[BulgarianMenace]

I don't play much ctr myself, but joppi claims that pellenor is very unbalanced, though I forget for which side. I'm sure he'd be happy to give you his reasoning.

As for rivendell, in my opinion it is actually easier for good to capture, considering they can drop off the bridge/ramp/whatever you want to call it at any point and it's only a short distance to the evil cp from there. The paths to good's cp are more narrow and easier to cut off. And going around the building can go both ways, and only works if people are too busy playing tdm instead of paying attention to the ring.