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Post by giaquinto718 on Jan 9, 2010 3:48:14 GMT -5
what the fuck.....
ok, idk what i, or we did, dnt even bother explaining yourself,...just another future black councilor i guess
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Jan 9, 2010 10:56:55 GMT -5
Burzum, what happened? What did any of us do to you? As for Tiberon, nobody treated him badly that I know of. HE left the White Council without notice, quickly joining the Black Council for reasons still unknown to me. I myself am not a first age player but hey, we can still get along. Don't get angry at us without telling us what is at least going on.
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Post by Onde Aander on Jan 9, 2010 12:48:30 GMT -5
Ok well giaquinto started hating ES Tiberon (before he joined BC too) and never gave a good reason - since that there's been some mutual talk between them which I don't like at all. I understand rivalry against BC but it seems to been rather personal. And quite frankly, I side with Tiberon (he's one of my best conquest friends!) on that one & I think it's BS but I ignored it & hoped they'd make it up - but they haven't.
Besides this, when I first said I was interested in fighting for Mordors, giaquinto said "you can join if you really want to" (just look back in this very thread) which doesn't sound exactly 'thused about it; he didn't put me on his starting list even as an alternate - and yeah like I said I'm no superstar (some of you guys are such great players I couldn't possibly match ya!) but I'm online a lot more than some of the guys listed if nothing else. Honestly I didn't really care that much because I just wanted to play & have some fun with friends. But then I got PO'd @ some messages L Star sent me (I'm not even mad at L Star anymore so I won't go into it - he's a gentleman & great player, if rather outspoken) and just had enough BS. So I expained this to gia, and he replied "why don't you just go & join bc? I've been playing with these guys since the beginning".
So basically, as I interpret it, you've got a close group of friends from the "first age" and I'm not a part of it. And that's awesome, I just don't share that with you. Like, I expected a little more respect at least as an adult and a person rather than "yeah, I guess you can join. You can play when nobody else is on. And make sure you're never in a party with any of those black council guys." This clan stuff for me is all for fun and I don't think any of it should be taken all THAT seriously. Banter is great but I'm not on board with shit-talking and rude messages to your own friends. I mean, really, what would ronjons do? Lol maybe I can't live up to ronjons' (and Mime's!) standard of humour and maturity but I'm all about having fun & screwing around. Seems I'm not with the program so I've stepped out. Really, nothing personal. I'll find some other place to raise hell.
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Post by optimusmime on Jan 9, 2010 13:21:33 GMT -5
Burzum, when you get a chance I think we should talk. I do agree with alot of what you said, some of this stuff has gotten WAY too blown out of proportion and ALOT of things have been taken WAY to personally. There are people who won't even talk to ME anymore! There are even people who have removed me from their friends list all together! I think WE ALL need to just relax! This IS a game. Meant for fun, not drama or stress. I think just because someone is in a "rival" clan doesn't mean we should have to all stop being friends. Honestly, this was what the White Council was founded on! RESPECT and HONOR first! It's one thing to play a part, it's another for people to start getting personal. I am friends to anyone who needs one. I may be alligned with Mordor but that doesn't mean I'm an evil person (or player)...I think people need to start looking past allegiance. (However "character wise" I hate the BC! And I spit on all of them!) lol
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Post by optimusmime on Jan 9, 2010 13:49:20 GMT -5
P.S-
I'm not saying I too haven't gotten caught up with saying things that I too have regret (for those in which I have apolagized), I will say though that this game is ALOT more fun when you don't have to worry about looking over your shoulder.
It doesn't matter what AGE you came into the game or how many hours you put in either, just as long as you have fun while doing it.
There is NOTHING wrong with in game rivalry just as long as we can find a mutual respect and understanding for each other and not take it more serious then that. That is all I have to say on the subject other then the White Council doors are always open to ANYONE no matter what clan they are in.
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Post by texas05 on Jan 9, 2010 14:27:36 GMT -5
hey burzum u should join me and ronjons in resistance.and im w/ u mime HATE lack council
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Jan 9, 2010 17:20:35 GMT -5
I think we all just need to chillax a little. We're not here to fight each other, we have to fight a common enemy (i.e Black Council). I'm sorry if I'm one of the people that has wronged you Burzum, but don't let someone like L Star get on your nerves. As for the Tiberon-Gia thing, I know you like sticking up for your boy Tiberon, especially since he does still have a lot of good in him Black Council or not, but this is NOT your fight.Let Tiberon and Gia solve their problems themselves. They are big boys, you know
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Post by ES Tiberon on Jan 10, 2010 17:21:41 GMT -5
to blitz In my mind i left WC quite a while back, me and gia left at the same time, then gia rejoined a little while after but i stayed out. but as for me joining BC, it's nothing personal. I decided to join b/c i wasn't in a clan at the time, and havn't been for a while. Plus i had some friends in there, like james, menoover, and slayer. Plus, i love a little clan rivalry.
As for the me and gia thing, i didn't really hav a prob with him, until he removed me off his friends list after BC played mordors, and he started saying shit to Experiment. But the only reason i don't really care for him now is because of the conversation me and him had after that (after he removed me off his friends list and started talking to experiment.) Which that probably wont be resolved but atleast now i hav true nemesis on the battlefeild to go after, which is quite fun if u ask me.
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Jan 11, 2010 7:18:37 GMT -5
No hard feelings, just wanted to know why, Thanks for telling me.
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Post by UndyingEagle on Jan 12, 2010 0:54:53 GMT -5
Wow i have missed a lot
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Jan 12, 2010 12:15:01 GMT -5
Yeah Eagle, you have. No worries, you'll get back into the swing of things in no time
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Post by UndyingEagle on Jan 12, 2010 15:41:40 GMT -5
I'll have to... guess im gonna have to get myself back into my elite playing form though got people to take care of apparently
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Post by Onde Aander on Jan 21, 2010 5:27:21 GMT -5
giaquinto,
You said the reason you were mad at me (and deleted me from your friends list) was because I never told you I had a problem before leaving Mordors. So purely out of respect for that, this time I'm going to air it out (because once again, I wasn't going to say anything).
Almost the day after I joined Mordors, I noticed that Tiberon had put Black Council in his bio. I didn't like it mainly for the same reason as you - that he didn't even tell me. But I had a chat with him about it a few days later which put me at ease. I asked him why and told him he should have joined Mordors instead; he tried to convince me to join BC instead - to which we both said NO. So I remember thinking to myself, "Fiiine we gotta be in different clans then. Death won't ever join Mordors because he and giaquinto hate each other, and the only reason I would ever join BC is if I fell out with the guys in Mordors... So that will never happen."
A short while later Tiberon came back to me with the messages you and he had been sending back and forth. I DIDN'T step in or say anything to you, but I lost a lot of respect for you. You both said nasty things, only you're 20 and he's what? 16 assuming he's had a birthday since I last asked? You could have acted like a friend and (dare I say) a role-model especially for being one of the founders of WC. Sure, maybe I should have said something to you then. But I didn't because I didn't trust you. Like most of the people in Mordors, I never felt very close to you. And quite frankly, I didn't feel like you cared either way whether I was in Mordors or not.
When you said "I want to see Burzum in this next clan battle" I was SURPRISED but then figured it had just gotten back to you that I was feeling a bit out of the loop, because I'd told certain people. For you to come out with it last night, after the fact, that you really trusted me as a friend and actually wanted me to fight for Mordors is slightly disarming. But I got no indication of it. You said "You can join Mordors if you really want to", you didn't even tell me when the first clan battle took place (or the result), and you and I almost never talked to each other anyway. If you aren't even sure whether you're good friends with someone, then you're really not, are you? Point is I didn't consider you a close friend; that's just how it turned out.
So for 2 weeks I stayed completely out of your business with Tiberon, except for . I got up at 6am one morning, couldn't sleep, and loaded up Conquest. Nobody from Mordors was on so, being a mildly social person, I dropped into a party with Experiment 187 and James Royalwood and joined their game. A little while later, James leaves and L Star and Swami drop into the game. I tried to go same side with them and couldn't get on (very nearly sent them a message "can't get on good" too but I couldn't be bothered to get up and plug the keyboard in). And then I thought, "ah well it's not like this is really gonna be a clan battle with just Experiment 187 and me and Chuckles on (I didn't know at the time that L Star was part of the new Mordors.. in fact I thought he'd pretty much retired from the game). I'll just play evil like I usually do and if I'm on opposite sides, that will at least even it out slightly". Then L Star and Swami and Experiment were all on the same team on Pelennor, so I thought "ok they're definitely not running against Experiment, either". Then I got some messages from L Star about being on the wrong team and in a party with Experiment.... basically got called a traitor. Everyone got their undies in a bundle. I got PO'd at L Star, remembered that I was PO'd with you... suddenly Resistance and BC both seemed way more friendly to me than my own clan. Yeaaaah... time to leave!
And you say that my reaction to what's happened between you & Tiberon is something to do with me being a woman? I asked you why you were mad at him, but I never stepped in-between your "man to man" mudslinging. But when it came time to pick sides, I did. So now after last night's conversation, independently of your problem with Death, I pretty much just think you're immature and a jerk and I have about as much respect for you as you do for me (which is obviously not much). I was happy with just playing all this up for a little bit of amusing rivalry (which is why I hunted you / danced on you for a couple games). I didn't need to talk about it for 3 hours last night, I didn't need to write all this. My feelings aren't hurt; I tried to leave Mordors quietly and in friendship. I don't take any of this stuff very seriously (online drama is SO not for me) BUT I've taken a good hour and a half of my morning to explain all this out of respect for the fact that you and several other people obviously DO take it seriously. I'll listen to whatever you have to say, but I don't have anything (serious) to say and it's honestly not affected me in any way except for the few hours' sleep I lost while while I was in that party with you guys last night.
The way I look at it, I play a character in an online gaming community. My usual policy is: if you can't say something funny, don't say anything at all. If you're ever interested in what I really think, get me alone in a party. On the rare occasion that I have something SERIOUS to say to you, I WILL either say it to your face or not at all. It's embarrassing that I even have to write all this, because it makes it look important when it's just NOT. I will stick with my friends at every turn, but I play this game for relaxation and comedy (and weirdly, to socialize). It's not an extension of my ego. It's a parody of it. All this whining and drama makes me feel sick. I think I need to take a break....
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Post by jonathan1515 on Jan 21, 2010 8:59:16 GMT -5
nice words burzum, i've realized that staying neutral has been so much easier with all that clan stuff that happens all the time.
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Post by Blitzkrieg Boys on Jan 21, 2010 10:40:58 GMT -5
Those are some strong feelings, Burzum, but I do believe that you shouldn't take Gia's comments seriously. Don't let the Giabeast or Lstar get on your nerves, especially with how much else you've put up with. Being neutral is fine, and maybe you DO just need a break from conquest-drama... I think we all need a break (at least from the drama).
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