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Post by eternalagony on Oct 23, 2009 14:15:05 GMT -5
I didn't give a shit, either way, about the outcome of the Minas Tirith CTR game. A lot of you were bitching about it, while a few of us kept saying: 'Who cares? Let's move on.' The first CTR match, everyone but one person was in (when it started). If you guys weren't ready, you should've said something in the chat. If you did, I missed that - apologies. The rules, to my knowledge, were set far in advance - and agreed upon. Straightcash conveyed to us that the rules were fine and that you all had no problem with them. How are we the assholes? Most of us said: 'Good game' and 'great job' after each game. I know that I did. I think some of you take this shit a little too seriously. Especially when I hear that people (from The Chosen Few) are going undercover to try and dig up dirt on the M7 -- not to mention, alienate other members of the LOTRC community. Whatever though. I don't care much for drama and finger pointing. It's just a stupid game. We can have a rematch. It's no big deal. strider your a good guy, it was clear you didnt care what happened during the game, same with jberube. I wrote that above as well. We didnt gripe about the early start because like you we didnt care. The Gandalf thing was rediculous, and a kick in the face after us not saying a word about the early start. If Gandalf changed the outcome I would have agreed it was a replay, but he killed 1/2 a person, in a situation that changed nothing. From a clan as highly regarded as M7, it felt very petty.We argued so long(both parties) that 50% of our team wanted to quit, 50% wanted play. We played the last ctr and were beat bad in my eyes, so as I said you won, despite the issues. You guys played better, I happily admitt that, but my respect for some of your team is gone. Bringing in Bauer for our match, you should have known that was gonna start shit. It was obvious some of your team was trying to be cute with this one & it pissed us off just as you probably planned. Bauers a liar, a cancer to any clan. Its been confirmed by several clans. If you believe 1 word that kid says, your crazy. Our clan is 10 times more fun now that hes gone. If any of your team respected any of our team, this move didnt show it. **NOW... In my above post I was talking to my friend amaced who I may be playing with in this very battle! I was not talking to you guys, and I warned him about our issues. All the issues were legit in the above post, and not meant to suggest you werent the better team. I got upset with Mr Big Mouth BM who decided to get personal. I agree its just a game. Doesnt seam like it to BM though does it?
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Post by Strider on Oct 23, 2009 14:20:08 GMT -5
I think some of you take this shit a little too seriously. Especially when I hear that people (from The Chosen Few) are going undercover to try and dig up dirt on the M7 -- not to mention, alienate other members of the LOTRC community. LMFAO, you guys would believe whatever bauer says. I would waste time explaining it.... but it is a waste of time, maybe somebody else from tcf would care to explain though because I MIGHT POTENTIALLY GIVE A MANGLED DICK ABOUT WHAT M7 THINKS Never said I believed anything. I just heard that. So, I'm glad you decided to save your breath and not explain it because ultimately...I don't care. That was the point - some of you taking this shit too seriously. Thanks for the reply though, POOKZ. It was brilliant.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Oct 23, 2009 14:25:54 GMT -5
And you're trying to gain respect by, what, bitching about how you lost? Yeah, that'll make me really think highly of you.
So you're sore about losing. Once again, get over yourself. And you only had 2 randoms in the last match, not in helm's, where you had your full team for most of the match, and by the time ONE of your team dc'd we were already up by a lot. You also had your full team in rivendell ctr, which was after the minas tirith top incident, which is the time you are alleging players from your team left (when they didn't).
And as for bauer, you're either angry because he's good and you resent that he helped us beat you, or you have some personal problems with him. Either way we don't have a lot of people and he was there as a back up. We only had 7 people, he had to play. We did warn you we don't have a lot of members and might have trouble getting 8 people together. You need to stop thinking the world revolves around you and we played bauer for any other reason than that he's good and we needed and eighth person.
Man, you show such great character.
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Post by Pookz on Oct 23, 2009 14:30:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply though, POOKZ. It was brilliant. You too man, you too
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Post by Strider on Oct 23, 2009 14:30:58 GMT -5
I didn't give a shit, either way, about the outcome of the Minas Tirith CTR game. A lot of you were bitching about it, while a few of us kept saying: 'Who cares? Let's move on.' The first CTR match, everyone but one person was in (when it started). If you guys weren't ready, you should've said something in the chat. If you did, I missed that - apologies. The rules, to my knowledge, were set far in advance - and agreed upon. Straightcash conveyed to us that the rules were fine and that you all had no problem with them. How are we the assholes? Most of us said: 'Good game' and 'great job' after each game. I know that I did. I think some of you take this shit a little too seriously. Especially when I hear that people (from The Chosen Few) are going undercover to try and dig up dirt on the M7 -- not to mention, alienate other members of the LOTRC community. Whatever though. I don't care much for drama and finger pointing. It's just a stupid game. We can have a rematch. It's no big deal. strider your a good guy, it was clear you didnt care what happened during the game, same with jberube. I wrote that above as well. We didnt gripe about the early start because like you we didnt care. The Gandalf thing was rediculous, and a kick in the face after us not saying a word about the early start. If Gandalf changed the outcome I would have agreed it was a replay, but he killed 1/2 a person, in a situation that changed nothing. From a clan as highly regarded as M7, it felt very petty.We argued so long(both parties) that 50% of our team wanted to quit, 50% wanted play. We played the last ctr and were beat bad in my eyes, so as I said you won, despite the issues. You guys played better, I happily admitt that, but my respect for some of your team is gone. Bringing in Bauer for our match, you should have known that was gonna start shit. It was obvious some of your team was trying to be cute with this one & it pissed us off just as you probably planned. Bauers a liar, a cancer to any clan. Its been confirmed by several clans. If you believe 1 word that kid says, your crazy. Our clan is 10 times more fun now that hes gone. If any of your team respected any of our team, this move didnt show it. **NOW... In my above post I was talking to my friend amaced who I may be playing with in this very battle! I was not talking to you guys, and I warned him about our issues. All the issues were legit in the above post, and not meant to suggest you werent the better team. I got upset with Mr Big Mouth BM who decided to get personal. I agree its just a game. Doesnt seam like it to BM though does it? The whole Gandalf thing was kind of ridiculous. I understood both viewpoints. Personally, I wouldn't have cared about giving you guys the win for that map. It didn't bother me - I just wanted to continue on. As far as Bauer is concerned, we had talked about recruiting him a long time ago. He messaged me about a week (or so) ago about joining. I didn't have any knowledge about TCF's beef with him or vice versa; and I don't think anyone in M7 did either. Or at least...how bad the situation really was. I'm not really sure who to believe in this situation. I have no reason to disregard anyone's take on things. Even though I don't play that much anymore...Bauer's been a good teammate and has not caused any trouble. Whatever issues you (and other TCF members) have with him, is a non-factor for us. I can tell you, however, that picking him up for our team had nothing to do with the fact that we were playing against you. No offense was meant. We just needed a good player to fill a spot.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Oct 23, 2009 14:31:22 GMT -5
yeah, heck, you care so little that you came in here to let everyone know. And with caps too. Go you! ( Pookz)
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Post by Joppi on Oct 23, 2009 14:34:38 GMT -5
I'm just going to pretend that no one from TCF posted here and get back to the topic at hand. Seriously, you guys need to shut up with the fucking drama, it's a game. Only two of our members really cared about the Gandalf thing, and, honestly, if you guys had made a deal about it, I, and probably many others on my team would have agreed to invalidate the Mount Doom match due to the early start (nowhere near as early as you're saying, though). The matches were a little messy, so what? We played some games and plenty of us (I assume) had a good time. It's not like we're prancing around saying "We're so much better than TCF lolololol". Anyway, amaced, the reason I've compiled a list of rules is simply in the interest of having a fair and organized match. When we played TCF and everyone knew the rules, the games flowed fairly well. There were a few hitches, but I've tried working them out in the rules I posted. If you really don't want any rules, then I suppose we can work something out, but it just seems like a better idea that we have some organization to ensure smooth, fair fights. Also, if it's the complexity of the rules that's throwing you off, I'll try and condense them a bit. I tend to be a bit long-winded when I'm writing, sorry. The problem is that a lot of people seem to just start fighting as soon as the game starts. When one person starts, another guy will follow him, and everyone will eventually just start playing even if no one is ready. It's easier to resolve disputes when no one is tempted to start playing. As far as knowing everyone is in the server, one person can join one team in order to check the list of who's on. That's how we did it with TCF and it worked fairly well. Also, roll calls in the chat help us out, too. Still, if it becomes a problem, we can probably just send everyone in. I mean, if everyone knows the rules, then nothing should go horribly wrong. Whatever, but we call Good on every Gandalf stage. TDM is way too bland, imo. I'd much rather play the other modes too. Clan war CTR is too fun. Somehow, I doubt you guys are going to flinch on this, so... whatever. I think this is a bit too long, honestly, especially if we're playing only one mode. 3/5 for one mode, 2/3 for each if we play multiple modes, imo. I'm fine with no counter-picking; you're right, that does take rather long, but no banned stages is over the edge. Some stages just really need to be banned, unless you like getting camped by an invincible 8-man group sitting on the top platform in Isengard or Mines of Moria. Definitely agree. I'm pretty sure that was in the rules I posted.
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Post by Joppi on Oct 23, 2009 14:35:19 GMT -5
wtf you guys posted like 17 times while I was posting.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Oct 23, 2009 14:41:45 GMT -5
The thing with having one person check is they can only see 8 people, I think, even when there's more in the server.
Roll call was really effective and should be the way to go in the future, imo. No one joins teams until roll call is complete and both teams agree to begin.
a 4/7 is not that far off from two 2/3s. Minimum games are the same (4) and maximum games are only off by one (7 vs 6).
A 4/7 is fine imo if that's the whole match.
counterpicking didn't really take that long when we all on the same page. It may have been a bit annoying when some people were actually fighting, but it was still pretty quick.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Oct 23, 2009 14:45:45 GMT -5
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Post by Pookz on Oct 23, 2009 14:48:15 GMT -5
yeah, heck, you care so little that you came in here to let everyone know. Go you! ( Pookz) Holy ****. Being 12 is like. Wow. You can say anything, I guess. Reread my post on what i dont care about ( HINT: I MIGHT POTENTIALLY GIVE A MANGLED DICK ABOUT WHAT M7 THINKS)
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Oct 23, 2009 14:55:33 GMT -5
Right. The caps. Definitely expresses that element of nonchalance you're going for. Good job.
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Post by Pookz on Oct 23, 2009 15:05:09 GMT -5
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?!
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Post by ALM1GHTY_AMACED on Oct 23, 2009 15:43:56 GMT -5
If you want to play 3 modes you can pick one mode and I will pick the other mode then the last mode is tdm which is fair for everybody. If not lets just play tdm 3/5 or 4/7 to win the match. ok I agree with the banned stages. whatever is in the server that is open should be the stage we have to play on. If there are more than 1 open stage the team who lost before a banned stage will pick the next stage. I think that seems fair enough. NOVEMBER 8 at 12 noon California time(PST) Im okay with it 4/7 or 3/5 you guys decide. again if you want 3 modes we pick 1 then you pick 1 then tdm.
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Post by jberube0311 on Oct 23, 2009 15:49:27 GMT -5
way to much drama going on. i really had a good time till dram started then everyone had an opinion about something when the leaders could have decide the faith of whatever was going on at the time . again i have beef with no one i just enjoy playing this game. so if anything if a dispute shows up the leaders should chat then tell us what s going on it will be much simpler but anyhow back to the challenge hopefully im on and we all have fun
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