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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 26, 2010 3:25:46 GMT -5
i disagree, i think we have the better archers more then anything. i've played with one shot on ps3 (which is harder to play archer on), and he didn't seem great at all, and he's apparently their 2nd best archer. put it this way on ps3 he wouldn't be a top 10 archer, he looked very mediocre the day i played with him, but like i said before, maybe he is just good on xbox, but i find that hard to believe because his scout was very impressive from what i had seen. so unless Da 1 and only and experiment are much better then him i can't see how they would have better archers. i do believe they have better scouts, everyone on xbox seems to talk very highly on alot of their scouts. viking and gow both told me that one shot is the best ctr scout they have ever seen, plus they seem to have many more great scouts then we do. i'd probably give the warrior advantage to them also, they seem to have more really good warriors then we do.... but we have broly
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 26, 2010 3:34:11 GMT -5
as for mage, viking and gow said they didn't get to play with mime, so he's not included, but vik told me they have no 'kick ass mages' as far as killing goes. said for the most part they all play defensively. though from what i saw in that swami vs wizardblade video i thought they both were fighting pretty aggressive and non intelligently.
not tryin to hate on you xbox guys, just stating my opinion on what i've seen and heard
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 26, 2010 4:17:12 GMT -5
Archer is probably the hardest to transition between consoles with (especially going 360 to ps3) because the lag affects how much you lead, so I wouldn't put too much weight in one shot not playing too well that one time you played with him.
On the xbox special arrow glitching is pretty big, and no one on ps3 really does that, so if a glitcher came to ps3 they would probably own since no one is accustomed to playing against those tactics. Coincidentally, arrow glitching is probably a big reason for xbox mages being so defensive.
And then the xbox archers that don't glitch have to be that much better to be able to survive in a glitch heavy environment.
Scouts are probably the closest between the two systems. One shot beat gow pretty badly in scout 1v1, but so does jenaez. I think we have better top scouts but they probably have more depth in the scout department.
Warriors...I beat vho and he wasn't anything special as far as I could tell, and he's one of their best, having beaten gia and others at the top. Broly agrees with me that vho's skills weren't memorable.
I've also beaten burzum and after I got over my surprise at the innovative use of regular heavy attack to overcome other attacks (which, btw, fails hard if the opponent reacts fast enough and gets up right away from it), I saw she was pretty mediocre, while on 360 she's good apparently.
God of war put up a good fight against gia, and I think beat him once. God of war is a good warrior but he's not even top 5 on the ps3. Ps3 has a very deep roster of top notch warriors.
For mages, I agree with your assessment of the 1v1 between wizard and swami. It seems their mage tactics aren't as refined as ours.
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Post by jenaez on Mar 26, 2010 8:05:44 GMT -5
I know 1 guy who glitch, that shit is so fucking weak, impossible use archer/scout/mage vs him bcuz the infinite rain of multi and warriors die in 3 sec bcuz infine fire arrow . Glitch arrows only shows lack of skills and strategy
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Post by optimusmime on Mar 26, 2010 9:50:37 GMT -5
I kicked some ass in my day
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Post by viking56 on Mar 26, 2010 10:09:32 GMT -5
i can name three possibly better 1v1 than gow's warrior. jenaez, bm and broly, he still makes 1v1 with jenaez and bm close, very close but after that there really isn't any warrior that is better 1v1 or 8v8 and if you think differently it is only opinion so he quite possibly could be 5th. not saying shadow couldn't beat him but they never fought and the fob doesn't like 1v1
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 26, 2010 13:22:48 GMT -5
me personally, i think will is the best 8v8 warrior, very effective in all modes, now if your including hero warriors, shadows the best by far, he owns with all of them imo.
as for fob, i don't think we ever got to see his best, he always played for fun, i think had he actually cared about being great he could possibly have been the best player.
i still believe they may have more top scouts too, smirv and ragtime jazz are talked very highly of. probably is very close though.
warrior... when you beat vho he had just started playin on ps3, and most xbox players refer to him being a great warrior along time ago, also he hadn't been playin much at all on either system apparently. so i find it hard to judge him. then there's that hankeysferret guy, apparently he's a really good warrior, along with tiberon. we may have a slight advantage due to the fact that we have alot of good warriors.
being that most xbox archers glitch, i think it would be impossible to judge there archers fairly on xbox.
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 26, 2010 13:27:04 GMT -5
plus being that ps3 is harder to play archer on, i think if ps3 archers went to xbox we would be even better on it then we are on ps3, we'd get to play without lag and our aim is already extremely good because we have to lead our shots, without leading i think we would be better then we are now
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 26, 2010 20:37:29 GMT -5
Lol, will is good but not nearly the best. No disrespect.
I never understood how people could say things when they have no idea what they're talking about. They should just keep quite instead of pulling something out of their ass that makes them look like idiots.
Vho had a ps3 for a while when I 1v1ed him. He hadn't been playing lotr much, but I hadn't played warrior for a while at that time either, so that balances out. However, the transition excuse is bull.
He's their #3 guy going by the awards votes, and both me, broly. and jenaez thought he was just ok.
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Post by jenaez on Mar 26, 2010 20:44:34 GMT -5
I killed him with my scout melee, i remember pm'ing bm in that moment saying "he is the 360 broly? bcuz i just killed him and he barely touch me", im not saying his bad but he is not a top 5 here in ps3 and from some ppl said he is the best in the 360.
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Post by waajon on Mar 26, 2010 21:06:32 GMT -5
seems that you guys are playing people who came over there and are judging the whole xbox community but not alot of you came to the xbox and kicked ass either if any ! of course either side has home console advantage so its very hard to judge i think it must be different in regards to archer cos one shot WAS a very good archer.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 26, 2010 21:14:58 GMT -5
god of war came over and he "kicked ass"
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Post by jenaez on Mar 26, 2010 21:20:58 GMT -5
seems that you guys are playing people who came over there and are judging the whole xbox community but not alot of you came to the xbox and kicked ass either if any ! of course either side has home console advantage so its very hard to judge i think it must be different in regards to archer cos one shot WAS a very good archer. god of war came over and he "kicked ass" I dont have to say anything
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Post by waajon on Mar 26, 2010 21:33:57 GMT -5
did he play ranked or unranked cos unranked was stupidly easy, and fair enough if he did i'm not doubting he's a good player, just out of curiosity how did your mages play ? just wondering if there was different styles between the two consoles, most of ours threw the firewall as soon as your sheild dropped and approached to do the staff pound attack, very predictable.. altho the good mages were very smart and constantly changing tactics
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 26, 2010 21:44:30 GMT -5
he beat gia 10-5 in a 1v1.
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