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Post by straightcash5 on Sept 11, 2010 15:40:57 GMT -5
no......
multi-shot is only useful up close and at medium range. the hero's multi did seem to do less damage to other hero's, but only because all of the hero's have more health and can survive through more damage from other hero's. but it also seemed to have more range then the normal archers did.
it was easier to kill mages in normal tdm, though it's just as easy to get a headshot kill on a hero mage as it was a normal one. thats really the only difference. the warriors were prolly alittle harder to kill also, but not by much. so yea it was easier to do alot of damage in normal tdm, but in htdm every hero has alot of health. a archer could survive a warrior combo way more often and 3 bolts from a hero mage wouldn't kill them either, like it does in tdm. so you don't have to play nearly as strategically in htdm as you do in tdm.
if it took more skill i'm sure this award would be for hero archers... but it's not
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Post by Joppi on Sept 11, 2010 22:36:20 GMT -5
Hero archers aren't really afraid of any single enemy because their health is too high for most warriors and mages to take down quickly. They also kill in about the same amount of time as normal archers as long as they're getting mostly headshots.
But, really, the most troll-like quality they have is their multi-shot, it just rapes everything. With 5 arrows in that closed space, it's almost a miracle if you DON'T get at least one headshot. Anybody close to you gets ripped to shreds instantly, no contest. In normal modes, the multishit is pretty rare even at fairly close range, they're just not comparable. L1 on one single enemy at point blank range kills instantly, no matter their class. No other type of hero can do anything comparable to that except, I guess, Grima and Frodo.
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Post by NexsusX (Fury) on Sept 12, 2010 23:31:40 GMT -5
Eh, being the best HTDM archer is kinda like being the Best Troll. If you catch my drift actually it does take some sort of ability to be a really amazing troll grimma is the only hero that could be considered op tho for htdm( i assume thats the reason why none of the other modes gave the option to use him)
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Post by Joppi on Sept 13, 2010 6:04:06 GMT -5
Eh, being the best HTDM archer is kinda like being the Best Troll. If you catch my drift actually it does take some sort of ability to be a really amazing troll grimma is the only hero that could be considered op tho for htdm( i assume thats the reason why none of the other modes gave the option to use him) I really can't agree. I feel like as long as you know what you're doing, every "good" troll plays the same. There's different levels of judgment involved, but the troll still requires very little strategic or technical (especially technical) ability to be the "best" at. Most of it is just rolling with your team and pressing triangle.
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Post by royaltyisbeleg on Sept 13, 2010 10:12:25 GMT -5
actually it does take some sort of ability to be a really amazing troll grimma is the only hero that could be considered op tho for htdm( i assume thats the reason why none of the other modes gave the option to use him) I really can't agree. I feel like as long as you know what you're doing, every "good" troll plays the same. There's different levels of judgment involved, but the troll still requires very little strategic or technical (especially technical) ability to be the "best" at. Most of it is just rolling with your team and pressing triangle. I have a very slow computer with fog and i can still kill a lot playing tdm with archer than playing htdm. I just basically zoom and multishot whenever i can on tdm and i get a kill not even knowing where it came from. Im not saying any noob can play archer in tdm and dominate but any archer noob can get more kills in tdm than htdm. In htdm you really have to be good at headshots to get the kill and not let others steal it from you. The only problem archers have on tdm is it really dies easily so you always make sure to stay with your team, not hard to do when you have an awesome team to protect you(tm7) but when you're stuck with the noobs then you get killed a lot.
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Post by Joppi on Sept 13, 2010 11:36:04 GMT -5
I seriously see this in the exact opposite way. All you have to do in HTDM is multishot, and that doesn't cut it in normal TDM. I've never had trouble racking up a ton of kills in HTDM just rolling around multishotting all day. In TDM I can't just multishot because a) normal archers get destroyed by normal mages and warriors in close range (not so in HTDM) and b) the multishot is nowhere near as accurate for normal archers as it is for hero archers.
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Post by straightcash5 on Sept 13, 2010 15:30:38 GMT -5
yea, but you don't have to worry about killing the mage or warrior early in htdm since you can survive through more damage then normal archers can. normal archers have to kill a good player playing mage early and fight smart against a warrior because one combo and your dead, you don't have to worry about that as a hero archer. so your skills had to be much sharper to stay alive long enough to do good in regular tdm.
plus at least on ps3 anyways, htdm had the largest amount of noobs out of all of the modes.
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Post by royaltyisbeleg on Sept 13, 2010 18:08:56 GMT -5
It doesn't matter anymore atleast I'm the best at something. Posting on this proboard is tough.
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Post by straightcash5 on Sept 13, 2010 21:08:47 GMT -5
lol yea it can be
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Post by NexsusX (Fury) on Sept 16, 2010 3:14:04 GMT -5
actually it does take some sort of ability to be a really amazing troll grimma is the only hero that could be considered op tho for htdm( i assume thats the reason why none of the other modes gave the option to use him) I really can't agree. I feel like as long as you know what you're doing, every "good" troll plays the same. There's different levels of judgment involved, but the troll still requires very little strategic or technical (especially technical) ability to be the "best" at. Most of it is just rolling with your team and pressing triangle. lotrconquest.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=lotrconquestdiscussion&thread=1385&page=1i did that created that post quite some time ago (after stroking my ego a few times cause of the match that lead into this posting) talking about some of the trolling path ways an stuff :/ which kinda agrees on your point so i kinda stuck my foot in my mouth lolz
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