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Post by rizen33 on Mar 17, 2010 9:25:06 GMT -5
nah ive always said cash was the best mage (xcept for near the summer wen i used to say bauer was the best), u can ask anyone.... i just feel cash had a bigger impact in our clan battles then u BM, no offense. and really, y u always get involved in something nothing at all to do wit u crusader? In BM's defense, I think he plays a pivotal role in our clan matches. He displays good leadership abilities, especially with the mic. In our clan matches we all rely heavily on our mics. Unfortunately, for our last clan match with you guys due to an unusual network error, all of us couldn't hear or communicate on the mics and were only able to hear Amaced. I think we have good teamwork, and each of our members play an important and unique role; therefore, it's less likely for a single person to really shine and appear to have the "biggest impact (again since we all equally contribute in a unique way)." I think cash is definitely an excellent player, but unless someone plays regularly on both teams; I don't think anyone can truly compare and say that this person has a bigger impact, since the view will be biased. Regardless of our mics not working and other difficulties (which BM mentioned in another post) we experienced during the match, I still think you guys improved and did extremely well.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 9:29:30 GMT -5
I do more than you understand grad. And certainly a lot more than cash.
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Post by viking56 on Mar 17, 2010 10:15:18 GMT -5
we always have mic errors, i can never hear pookz dont know why, i sub for tm7 once bm does a good job of communicating and changing things on the fly, but i am not sure it is alot more than cash, alot might just be an opinion i doubt you guys play on the same team very much
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Post by viking56 on Mar 17, 2010 10:24:58 GMT -5
BM what are your ten better mages than grad? Crusaders also? i honestly vote according to actual performance all around clan battles regular maps not every player in tm7 does great on every map i voted for both btw I probably voted for someone from every clan players if i could pick to fight along side with me, but saying we got raped when we couldn't cluster, on helms when got broke apart it wasn't fighting you guys one on one it was fighting 2 on 1 or worse.
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Post by rizen33 on Mar 17, 2010 10:25:38 GMT -5
we always have mic errors, i can never hear pookz dont know why, i sub for tm7 once bm does a good job of communicating and changing things on the fly, but i am not sure it is alot more than cash, alot might just be an opinion i doubt you guys play on the same team very much Yea I know what you mean, I never once heard Joppi in any of our matches. I was pointing out that our mic issue was unusually severe for our last match, since we all could only hear Amaced. I agree what you say is an "opinion." "i doubt you guys play on the same team very much." I would say this is also true about you and BM playing together. Therefore, I don't think people, including myself, can truly make an objective assessment without some bias.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 10:36:37 GMT -5
It's not like we had any spawn location advantage to facilitate that. You had a completely equal opportunity. We chose that map precisely because it had so many varied spawn locations and we knew that in smaller groups we would destroy you. And we were right.
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Post by viking56 on Mar 17, 2010 13:06:04 GMT -5
yep you were right i wasn't denying we got beat at all, i was complimenting bm on his ability to communicate well on mic because he is good at it, i just thought bm statement that he is way more effective than cash was biased since they dont play together much, just my thoughts on it
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 17, 2010 13:09:14 GMT -5
well i do most of the talking and come up with most of our strategies, strider normally helps alot also, v and pooks also help with it. like rizzen said it's a team game, hard for anyone to shine. also if you did beat us up in small groups, then i must have done pretty good with makin sure we didn't get into fights outnumbered and fought as a team. as far as fighting by ourselves go, on helm we kept spawning into a warrior and a mage and if your an archer your not toin to live long at helms in those situations. i'm not sure about everyone else, but i had ended up alone with joppi at rivendale multiple times and did just fine. i hardly played mage at all since pooks wasn't there, i was needed at archer.
but i don't know why any of this matters, you guys won anyway.
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Post by rizen33 on Mar 17, 2010 14:02:57 GMT -5
yep you were right i wasn't denying we got beat at all, i was complimenting bm on his ability to communicate well on mic because he is good at it, i just thought bm statement that he is way more effective than cash was biased since they dont play together much, just my thoughts on it Alright man that's cool, it was a misunderstanding on my part.
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Post by Crusader_878 on Mar 17, 2010 20:23:27 GMT -5
BM what are your ten better mages than grad? Crusaders also? Here are some mages that are better than grad, I won't list BM or cash, since it is generally believed that they are 1 and 2 best mages. The following list is in no particular order. Current Mages: rizen33 dpninja (pookz-) merlin1991 amaced me god_of_war-57 Bauer54024 xx pends xx (something like that) marenkodivine Enrique_Ronaldo Retired mages: TENAX Velociti___ Planoise25 sebblebossdu25 He's no where near 3rd best mage.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 20:32:15 GMT -5
I'd probably go with
rizen33 bauer amaced EBGMAN nexsus Fleur marenko redskin pookz INIVICTUS_ROMA Bill
(that's 11 already)
I'm sorry but grad seems decidedly mediocre to me.
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 17, 2010 21:30:50 GMT -5
some of those mentioned are very good, rizzen, bauer, fleur, maren, i use to not think merlin was any good, but he has gotten better and did great against CT.
but grad beat gow 30-15, beat pooks along time ago, and i've fought in game and 1v1's with quite a few of those people and he's better then most of them imo, only ones that may be better are rizzen and bauer. again just my opinion. but everytime i've 1v1'd him he's done much better then anyone else on those lists that has fought me.
heck in the battle against brave at pellinor fields he had almost as many kills as the archers as a mage on the hardest map to get kills as a mage.
but he didn't play mage much and didn't fight many 1v1s. so i can understand if you guys don't think he is, but like i said bm, had you fought him in a 1v1 you would think differently.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 21:34:51 GMT -5
Maybe, but he has never impressed me in any of our clan battles.
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Post by straightcash5 on Mar 17, 2010 21:41:59 GMT -5
meh, look at your clan though bm, you have the highest amount of talent, you guys aren't easy to kill, and he hardly played mage in either of those battles. might have for part of a couple maps.
he normally makes the other person act first (not by just sitting there either) fights very smart, and is probably the hardest mage to kill when he has low health and your right up on him.
also neither of you had strider in your other 10 besides bm and myself, really? outside of 12? strider is a great team mage and pretty smart, he's definitely a top 12 mage. same for don1eye, he's probably the best team mage there is, fights for his team at all times and can give a good fight
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Mar 17, 2010 21:50:06 GMT -5
Strider's a top 20 mage but not top 10.
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