Point Whoring

[redwurd]

Just came back from a lovely point whoring session from Minas Tirith Top. Needless to say Good (which I use the term loosely & is defined by such in this game, however underhanded they played) had scored twice, (can you tell I was on the Evil side?)& Evil had not scored a single capture the ring point. Well Gandho, oops I mean Gandalf had the ring, and do you know what, he was in the evil spawn with 5 other mages an archer & a warrior, and did not attempt to score the ring!!!
However Gandalf & the Good team just continued to spawn kill.
That continued for a good 4 minutes until finally Gandalf was killed. I probably had my worst score if not ever in a very long time: 2 kills 20 deaths! I lambasted the Good side on mic when the slaughter finally ceased, yes Evil lost 3 zip, and I congratulated on such a great win at point whoring. Yea I am greatly pissed as I am writing this down, but the whole point that I'm trying to make & bitch about is this: Is it really necessary to point whore? Come on, you're winning the game, but you have to pad your scores???
I would rather be a sore loser any day of the week (which I am at this moment), than a cheap winner.

[wottesworthsgurl]

Oh so you make a whole thread dedicated to me? thanks i feel so honored..

[redwurd]

actually I didn't name names & no It's not dedicated to you, but the players of Good that participated in that shameless display of point whoring.

This isn't the first time either. I'm just a little tired of the crap, that in my opinion ruins the game.

Hey winning is not everything, (ya it's the only thing for some people), but there should come a point when not to whore that point, no?

[BulgarianMenace]

lol, I remember one time me and I think rizen (if it was someone else I apologize) did essentially that to joppi and the rest of the evil team. Neither of us was gandalf though (iirc rizen was a regular mage and I was a scout backstabbing people as they spwaned).

Anyway yeah, the situation as you described it is just unnecessary. Playing to win would be scoring as quickly as possible to minimize the risk that the tables might turn (entirely possible in ctr even if you're up 2-0). Refusing to score to get more kills is just selfish (stat padding) and insulting.

[czrk147]

that always sucks. i hate the people who do that, and everytime that good spawn kills its with beautifully on their team. whenever it comes to that, i always just runaway and kill good and their own base or i try kicking the ring bearer to score, but no, there are always 7000 mages shooting fire at nothing, then i die by some warrior on the roof.

[jenaez]

In my opinion thats a good strategy, not with mage spam and gayndalf thou, because is ALOT easier for your team scoring when you are camping in the enemy base, because if all the other team is in their base, your ring bearer have all the way enemy-free, and when is coming to base only have to walk a liitle to score.. Example Mines of Moria CTR, if 2 evil mages and 1 archers camp in the door of the good spawning point its really hard to go good leave their base, that mean enemy-free, until the bearer reach the door, and the distance from the door to the good base is 2 scout rolls, that mean really easy score, thats not point whoring thats strategy, CTR its not only clusterfucking around the ring bearer

[don1eye]

My two cents is its called capture the ring!! Not team death match!

[jenaez]

I know but only 1 guy have to capture rhe ring not 8, 8 ppl with the ring is stupid in some case, why having so many ppl only walking, when they can make easier and quicker scoring a point

[redwurd]

The point I was trying to make is that good already had 2 outta 3 to win, Evil had 0 score. And when Gandalf & his Mage harem went to Evil spawn not to capture the ring, but spawn kill. Evil had a very slim to none chance at scoring, with evil players dropping out of disgust & frustration. There was plenty of occasions for Good to capture the ring in those 4 minutes, but Gandalf kept running away & the endless heals from him & his harem kept him alive despite Evils best efforts. I guess I play this game differently in that ya, I want my team to win, who doesn't? But if my team pulls that same shite or glitches the ring, I back off, if I'm on mic or in chat with them I tell them it's cheap & just score already, or I drop out.
I know revenge or blood lust in the heat of battle can overtake you & cloud your perspective, I've had that problem a few times as well, but now know better.

[BulgarianMenace]

Let me reiterate that spawn camping in the situation you described (the team has 2 captures and has the ring near the cp but chooses not to score so that they can improve their stats) is not playing to win.

However, what jenaez is saying is that spawn camping is a legit strategy to slow down the other team and give your team a chance to advance the ring with less resistance. That IS an example of playing to win.

[redwurd]

Yes I'm familiar with strategy & that strategy in particular is used on both sides (tho Good tends to Mage spam more in Minas Tirith Top Ctr), yes it's a legitimate way to win, however annoying it is for the team that is getting harassed.

[NexsusX (Fury)]

lol one of the few joys in life is to turn the game around when people camp you and win

[Angelus]

I hate that on shire map when 3 trolls are near good respawn point in ctr not giving the good team any chance to get out while the saruman is not even trying to capture the ring but is just jumping up and down avoiding any scout.

[redwurd]

Ya that is another example.
If the trolls can even get close to the good spawn, due to all the sniping hobbit archers & the horses that can run you down! The right combination of hobbit archers & horses can shut down any advancing troll parade.
From my experience I believe that Evil having just come off of the three worst maps for Evil (generally speaking): Black Gates, Osgiliath, and Mt. Doom, where Gandalfs & mages seem to multiply & pwn Evil (not all the time but a vast majority the time), Evil is venting out in angry retribution by spawn killing. Doesn't make it right (it can be a bit therapeutic tho after being Gandho'd to death lol) and I will back off, and on mic tell them to stop.

[Willf_28]

Thats a good point.. WHORE. JK!!! had to say it lmao ;D