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Post by Strider on Feb 19, 2010 1:59:24 GMT -5
It's not about revenge. I'm still cool with everyone in TM7. Wrong again. Statements like: 'Looks like Strider didnt straighten his bitch out' exemplify your true colors and what kind of low life you are. And that's exactly what you are: a complete low life, coward. So you were just kidding about not liking the way BM runs things & the other things? Leaving M7 & forming chaos was about shits & giggles? lol, thats right, a coward cause I used a delete button. Are you really that stupid? Im a low life for using a forum tool button? Thats by far the dumbest thing I ever heard. Im curious to know what reason I would have to delete a post under being a coward. If you had a brain, you would know you delete a post when you feel you crossed the line with your words. Believe what you want, makes no difference to me. You wont see any more deletes, Ill be sure to bring the rain with my words just for you. And yes, those are pretty much my true colors, didnt know I was trying to hide them. As for your replys, you should just copy & paste as your extremely repetitive. BM and I have our differences. That doesn't mean I'm not cool with TM7. Again, with the d-riding. This is quite comical. Please do not call my brain into question. It is pretty obvious whose brain doesn't function properly here. You're not a coward for using a forum tool. You're a coward for creating an alternative name to bash someone with, knowing that said person couldn't access the forums to defend himself. You're a coward for deleting posts and telling others to delete posts that incriminated you as the uber dbag that you are. You're a coward for lying about events and going behind your clanmates backs to try to get in TM7. You sure do talk a lot of shit here for someone who doesn't care about "gamer tag" people on the internet. I'm about through bandying words with a mental midget such as yourself. Reply if you choose, I just may have to continue to rip you apart and expose you.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Feb 19, 2010 2:11:23 GMT -5
How did it become evident?
What did I really do with my "power?" I challenged clans, often without consulting anyone. Big whoop. Doubt anyone really cares who we fight so long as we do fight, and honestly I wish someone else would have done it because I hate organizing shit but no one did so I had to.
What else?
I let fleur in without talking about it in the TM7 forum. That may have been a mistake, but it was pretty much unanimous among the members that she was good enough.
Then I didn't let ouphe. And you got mad that legend_reborn and shadowfax got in on single recs but I wouldn't let ouphe in. Of course, I only did so because she wasn't good enough, which I displayed via tryout (no matter how much you want to john for her she got raped and she displayed lack of critical thinking in action since she never at all changed up her strats once she saw they weren't working). You got chafed at the fact that I overruled you, essentially. So again, what it comes down to is that you wanted to be able to make executive decisions and ouphe got pissed at me and bitched in your ear.
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Post by Strider on Feb 19, 2010 2:19:36 GMT -5
How did it become evident? What did I really do with my "power?" I challenged clans, often without consulting anyone. Big whoop. Doubt anyone really cares who we fight so long as we do fight, and honestly I wish someone else would have done it because I hate organizing shit but no one did so I had to. What else? I let fleur in without talking about it in the TM7 forum. That may have been a mistake, but it was pretty much unanimous among the members that she was good enough. Then I didn't let ouphe. And you got mad that legend_reborn and shadowfax got in on single recs but I wouldn't let ouphe in. Of course, I only did so because she wasn't good enough, which I displayed via tryout (no matter how much you want to john for her she got raped and she displayed lack of critical thinking in action since she never at all changed up her strats once she saw they weren't working). You got chafed at the fact that I overruled you, essentially. So again, what it comes down to is that you wanted to be able to make executive decisions and ouphe got pissed at me and bitched in your ear. I didn't want to make executive decisions. I just wanted everyone to be held to the same standard. Again, we've discussed all of this via PM. I'm not going to repeat what's already been said. There's no need to continue this discussion. It's been had. Time to let it die. We can agree to disagree. If there are some loose ends still, why not PM and come to me personally?
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Feb 19, 2010 2:25:29 GMT -5
I just wanted to clarify things for the people interested.
Another thing - when I asked you to propose a solution you essentially said a member should go through an 8v8 with the clan and a 1v1 against a clan member best with the tryout's classes, and there should be discussion with the 1v1 person maybe having a little bit more say.
Well, I gave ouphe a 1v1 and then I said she should show up at the next team practice and see how her scout does there. Essentially the exact thing you suggested afterward, just in reverse. Then you left before that could happen.
And if all you wanted was everyone to be held to the same standard, you could have easily said something instead of leaving. I keep repeating this, but nothing was stopping you from suggesting a solution. The real reason you didn't is because you didn't want ouphe going through something like the solution you suggested after you left, you just wanted her to get in automatically just cause you wanted to be in the same clan with her.
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Post by Strider on Feb 19, 2010 2:33:56 GMT -5
I just wanted to clarify things for the people interested. Another thing - when I asked you to propose a solution you essentially said a member should go through an 8v8 with the clan and a 1v1 against a clan member best with the tryout's classes, and there should be discussion with the 1v1 person maybe having a little bit more say. Well, I gave ouphe a 1v1 and then I said she should show up at the next team practice and see how her scout does there. Essentially the exact thing you suggested afterward, just in reverse. Then you left before that could happen. And if all you wanted was everyone to be held to the same standard, you could have easily said something instead of leaving. I keep repeating this, but nothing was stopping you from suggesting a solution. The real reason you didn't is because you didn't want ouphe going through something like the solution you suggested after you left, you just wanted her to get in automatically just cause you wanted to be in the same clan with her. The real reason...?I've given you that and you refuse to accept it. It doesn't matter, think what you want. You made it clear that you wanted ouphe to 'dislike' you. You never gave her a fair shot and didn't want to. Again, this has all been said. Of course I wanted to be in clan with her and that *also (not completely)* played a part in my decision. I'm done with this.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Feb 19, 2010 2:46:17 GMT -5
And so the rest of what I said was also true.
Oh, and I did give her a fair shot. I gave her a chance to show I was wrong. And even after she failed in the 1v1 I still gave her a chance to show her worth in an 8v8. That's pretty damn fair. Just because she sucked doesn't make me unfair.
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Post by Strider on Feb 19, 2010 2:51:59 GMT -5
The rest of what? Listen man, I'm tired of this bullshit. We've already discussed this issue and you're just airing this out (with your spin) to get people to wave their pom pom's for you. I'm done.
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Post by BulgarianMenace on Feb 19, 2010 2:59:48 GMT -5
I'm airing it out because people are speculating on the creation of chaos theory, and I'd rather they heard the full story instead of just one half of it.
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Post by brave on Feb 19, 2010 8:22:39 GMT -5
Yeah, its pretty easy to see the truth here. Chaos Theory is a revenge vs M7 clan. Strider, let it go man. BM's been a good leader for you guys. BM, NGB, joppi, jrebube carried you to the top. You should be thankful they let you join along in there success, it was nice of them. I dont understand the need to double cross them and try to form a clan to take them down. Your really showing your "true colors" here, and I'm glad that everyone got to see it.
Edit:(Is this cowardly as well?I used another tool)
Viking please use this sentence to replace the one above so it makes since to you.
*I dont understand the need to double cross them and "merge with" another clan to take them down.
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Post by viking56 on Feb 19, 2010 9:45:32 GMT -5
Actually merlin we have two jobs. We are full time dairy farmers putting in well over 2000 hours a year no weekends, no holidays, we work everyday. If that isn't enough we weld projects for our local FFA chapter so they can keep going at our former high school. So dont tell us we need a job. You guys have this thing about loyalty if that is what you want to call it, if a player joins a different team does that make him a traitor? of course not when players left us we didn't go around telling everybody they are traitors or whatever words you use to describe them. People leave, move on, want to do something different or whatever, it really doesn't matter, overall we are fighting about something that is going away. We certainly can argue about this for an entire month, due to the fact there are plenty of haters out there or we can look forward to having a few clan battles. It is odd tho we make a clan and plenty of people feel it is their right to comment on it, but we haven't commented about any of the rosters moves by other clans . BM is sour that one of his good players went to his rivals, merlin, crusader, and EA think they know everything that goes on in our clan due to some fact they dont like us. You always say I let my skills on the battlefield speak for itself, well then lets see it you can challege us anytime, (BRAVES) if you win then you are indeed a TC
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Post by redwurd on Feb 19, 2010 9:54:31 GMT -5
ENOUGH What's been said, what's been done, REALLY DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE. I highly doubt that anyone involved in TM7, CT or TCF is going to come to a sudden realization that it is all just bull shite. All that is being accomplished is shite slinging, and everyone is getting splattered by it. Ya sneaky underhanded and cowardly things have been perpetrated, and the guilty parties know who they are, even if they try to portray themselves as innocent to the rest of us their actions speak the truth. It is a matter of opinion and perspective from you or them, but it seems no one is willing to try and see the other persons point. Battle lines have been drawn in the sand and everyone is digging their heals deep into the ground and arguing over........................ um what exactly? The original bone of contention has been cremated in the raging fires that have followed. Adding more fuel to the fire is helping??? Even the ones battling the flames are getting overcome by them.
But to continue the way THIS is going with the time that you & we have left in LOTR Conquest is: ____________________________________________________________________ please feel free to put your own words here, maybe perhaps seeing your own words with my sentence mIght be a splash of cold water on your fire?
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Post by viking56 on Feb 19, 2010 11:22:11 GMT -5
Yes it has been all a waste of time, i am no better, i have thrown more than enough tnt in the fire as well
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Post by Mithrand!r on Feb 19, 2010 11:35:18 GMT -5
Actually merlin we have two jobs. We are full time dairy farmers putting in well over 2000 hours a year no weekends, no holidays, we work everyday. If that isn't enough we weld projects for our local FFA chapter so they can keep going at our former high school. So dont tell us we need a job. You guys have this thing about loyalty if that is what you want to call it, if a player joins a different team does that make him a traitor? of course not when players left us we didn't go around telling everybody they are traitors or whatever words you use to describe them. People leave, move on, want to do something different or whatever, it really doesn't matter, overall we are fighting about something that is going away. We certainly can argue about this for an entire month, due to the fact there are plenty of haters out there or we can look forward to having a few clan battles. It is odd tho we make a clan and plenty of people feel it is their right to comment on it, but we haven't commented about any of the rosters moves by other clans . BM is sour that one of his good players went to his rivals, merlin, crusader, and EA think they know everything that goes on in our clan due to some fact they dont like us. You always say I let my skills on the battlefield speak for itself, well then lets see it you can challege us anytime, (BRAVES) if you win then you are indeed a TC Have i talked with you? NO, so if your brother has a mouth to insult people, he also have one to defend himself. He doesn't need you to tell me the story of the farmers and their hard work. Besides it was him who start saying it was me who needed a job so don't come with that bs to me. Do you guys know anything of my private life to talk about anything? NO, so STFU. And stop with that story of victim that we don't like you, it's ridiculous, you don't like us either. Why am i called traitor by pookz in your clan chat if i didn't do anything to him? Why is your brother sending pm to people asking if they like merlin? The only paranoids here are you guys, so just leave me alone and i will do the same. If you have anything to say to me send pm i'm tired of discussing here. i just want to finish my last days of lotr in peace. P.D. - You're right redwurd, and i'm sorry to saying what i've said...it was my last post.
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Post by Mithrand!r on Feb 19, 2010 12:01:54 GMT -5
Well, reading red post once more and seeing the ''____________________________________________________________________'' suggestion, my words would be: i'm a person that sometimes put fire in things but i really dislike to be bad with someone, so, in this dark times, i apologize if i have ever offended anyone, i would like us to forget everyting and start from a new beggining. There's no need to be with this shit of talks..they are just ridiculous.We should try to be united and try to belive that all of this never happened. Peace to all.
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Post by grad22au on Feb 19, 2010 12:16:44 GMT -5
With regards to the TCF/Chaos Theory dispute, here's the way I see it: Strider was happy being a member of TM7. Ouphe and strider form a romantic relationship. Ouphe and strider want to be in the same clan. Ouphe isn't that good and I don't let her into TM7. She gets tight at me and forces strider to leave. They try to form their own clan but don't make it "official" because there simply aren't enough good players left and so they don't have enough members. Strider doesn't want to completely betray TM7 by joining TCF, so he wants to label the whole thing a "merger." However, they did essentially just join TCF, and strider replaced cash as the leader and changed the name. I still think it's gay that he joined TCF, but he wanted out of TM7 and there was no other clan with very talented players, so he chose to go to them rather than settle for worse players. Dude, my sentiments exactly. lol he just pretty much said there was no other good clan, way to agree with that going bak to pookz post on sportsmanship, dnt talk shit to ppl who can beat u.
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